Tuesday, January 20, 2026

An open thread about Bronze Age Anatolian Y DNA

An open thread about Bronze Age Anatolian Y-DNA

I plan to write a review about the origins of IE Anatolians. As stated earlier in this group, I believe that a definitive solution to this question requires dozens of Bronze Age Y-DNA samples from specific locations in central Anatolia that are neither Greek (Aegean coast), nor Hattic or Kaskian (northern Anatolia), nor areas with a strong Hurrian presence. Before such data become available, I would like to summarize the already available Y-DNA in order to identify patterns. I will not discuss in this thread the steppe markers R1b and I2. Their affiliation with IE migrations is unambiguous. What is more important about them is the route of migration and their possible linguistic affiliation within the IE family. I will discuss them in the review about Anatolian IE.

J1-Z1828* found at Harmanören - Göndürle Höyük, dated to ~2400 BC (Lazaridis et al. 2017).
There is no information about the downstream branch, but the chances are quite high that it belongs to the BY69 branch, which was found in Anatolia in later periods.

J2-Z6065>Y9268>Z43664 from Ovaören, dated to ~2750 BC (Damgaard et al. 2018).
This branch is parallel to P81 found in the Maykop culture.

Another J2-Z6065 was found in Yediay et al. 2024.

2× J2-M67>Z6273 from Kültepe (Kalehöyük), dated around 2500–1200 BC (Damgaard et al. 2018).
This branch may reflect a new post-Neolithic migration; however, its presence in Neolithic Italy (Cardial Ware) raises the possibility that it was already present in Anatolia since the Neolithic period.

Another possible Bronze Age Anatolian lineage is E-791. However, we need to wait for the publication of Yediay et al. 2024 and the raw files for full confirmation of this theory.

Indirect data suggest that J2-L70, and possibly upstream levels, was also a Bronze Age Anatolian lineage that expanded in the LBA–IA, possibly with the Luwians.

I did not include G2-M406 and T1a2a, as there are strong reasons to believe that they were initially associated with the expansion of the Hattic people.

The main visible pattern is that all these haplotypes have clear eastern connections. Another remarkable feature is their absence from a large set of Minoan Y-DNA. This supports the idea that they cannot be connected to Proto-Minoan migration or to the non-IE Hattic people.

To be continued.

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